The Difference Between God and His Son

WHO IS THIS MELCHISEDEC #47

The Difference Between God and His Son

March 11, 2001

Brian Kocourek

In the sermon WHO IS THIS MELCHISEDEC preached on February 21, 1965 William Branham told us that Melchisedec was God. In his explanation he brought out the Greek word “En morphe”, and said that it speaks of changing of mask.

"Now, now, we find out that this Person had no father, no mother, no beginning of days or ending of life. It was God "En morphe". Now, the Greek word means "change," was used, changing Himself, "En morphe", from one person to... One person... The Greek word there, "En morphe," means... It was taken from the stage act, "that one person is changing his mask to make him some other character." Like in school just recently--I believe, Rebekah, just before she graduated, they had one of Shakespeare's plays. And one young man had to change his clothes several times, because he played two or three different parts, but the same person. He'd come out; one time he was the villain. And when he come out next time, he was another character." 40 And now the Greek word "En morphe" mean that he changed His mask. And that's what God did. It's the same God all the time. God in the form of the Father, The Spirit, the Pillar of Fire, the same God was made flesh and dwelt among us: "En morphe," brought out so He could be seen.

The Vines Greek Dictionary tells us the meaning of “En morphe” is 1) the form by which a person or thing "strikes the vision"; external appearance.

Now, I would like to show from Scripture where this word En-Morphe is used to show by it that there is a difference between the Father and the Son.

PHILIPPIANS 2:6 Who (that’s speaking of Jesus as the pre-incarnate Son of God), being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself (that’s the pre-incarnate Son of God) of no reputation, and took upon him (the pre-incarnate Son of God) the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: (so we are told here that the pre-incarnate Son became incarnate in a human form or body) 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. (Now, we must ask ourselves the question. Who did He, the Son of God humble Himself unto? The Answer is to God, His Father. Remember His words, “Father I would that you take this cup from me, but nevertheless, not My will but Thy will be done.” LUKE 22:42)

From his sermon entitled, UNVEILING OF GOD 64-0614M 52 William Branham, Prophet of God said, If you notice here in Philippians he said, "Not thinking it robbery, but took the form of man..." Now, the Greek word there for that form, I've been looking at it all day yesterday, trying to think out what it was, I find, come with this word of "en morphe." It's spelled e-n m-o-r-p-h-e. Looking in the Greek to find out what "en morphe" was... I may pronounce that wrong, but I... Reason I spell it, when if the tape is released, the people will, scholars will know what I--I mean by it. He... When the "en morphe"... That means that "He changed Hisself." He--He come down. Now, the Greek word there means that "something that could not be seen, yet it's there, and then it's changed, and the eye can catch it." See? 54 Like Elijah was at Dothan . See, the--the servant couldn't see all those Angels around there, and God just changed, not brought the Angels down, but He changed the seeing of the servant. And there was the mountains full of Angels, and fire, and horses of fire, chariots of fire, all around His prophet. See? They... He changed the seeing. The--the thing is already there.

Again from his sermon IDENTIFIED CHRIST OF ALL AGES 64-0617 77 William Branham said, “Remember, God changes His form. "En morphe," the Greek word means "He puts on a different mask."

And again from his sermon The MIGHTY GOD UNVEILED 64-0629 15-1 William Branham taught, “He changed His en morphe. He changed from what He was to what He is. He never changes His nature.”

Now, in this study we are not going to teach on the En Morphe, but I need to bring this out to you because William Branham defines the En Morphe as the changing of what is being seen. So it has to do with the presentation, although the nature is never changed, the presentation or vessel is.

God in the Pillar of Fire is no different that God in His Son or God in His Church. And yet, we know that while in the state of the Pre-incarnation, the Son of God was in the form of God. Therefore we have got to conclude that God had a form and the Son was in the same form. Let's read it again carefully.

PHILIPPIANS 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

I would like to read this from several other translations, so that we might get the full impact of what is being said, because many people are confused about whether or not God had a form other than the form that His Son dwelt in.

NIV: Who being in very nature God; did not consider equality with God something to be grasped. But made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in the appearance of man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death, - even death on a cross.

AMPLIFIED: Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God (possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God, God), did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained: But stripped himself of all privileges and rightful dignity so as to assume the guise of a servant or slave, in that He became like men and was born a human being. And after He had appeared in human form He abased and humbled Himself still further and carried His obedience to the extreme of death, even the death of the cross.

The Weymouth Translation says, "Although from the very beginning He had the nature of God, He did not reckon equality with God a treasure to be tightly grasped. Nay, He stripped Himself of His Glory, and took on Him the nature of a bondservant, a man like other men.

Emphatic Diaglott: Who, though being in God's form, yet did not meditate to usurpation to be like God, but divested Himself, taking a bondsman's form having been made in the likeness of men, and being in condition as a man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Now we have read 5 translations (the number of Grace) and every one pointed to the fact that there was a time when the Son of God was so much like God, that in all His attributes, in His Nature and full expression, He was the very representation, the very effulgence, or expression of God. And Paul says, He was in the FORM, the EN MORPHE of God. Therefore, God had a form, and the Son of God was identical to God in that form in every detail, in every characteristic, and in every attribute, except that He was not God. Now, most people do not believe that God has a form. But if Jesus came forth in the exact expression of the Father, then the Father had to have a form to express although God’s form is invisible Spirit, yet the expression can not be anything other than what God’s form is, or else it is not in the exact representation or likeness. Therefore, God is not some floating cloud-like spirit. He is not just an eternal Mind although He has an eternal mind, but God has a form.

That is why brother Branham could say from his sermon 25 HEBREWS Chapter 7, Part 1HEB 292-25 -- 57-0915 2E

“Now, the reason that there's a difference between God and Jesus: Jesus had a beginning, God had no beginning; Melchisedec had no beginning, and Jesus had a beginning. But Jesus was made liken unto Him.

Now, here's the thing I want to bring out in this message. Brother Branham is telling us here that the very fact that Jesus had a beginning and God did not have a beginning shows that there is a difference between the two of them right there. Now, we are told that Jesus had the same in nature, and the same expression in every detail as the Father, but notice that brother Branham says here that One was God, (the One that is the Father), and the other one (the one that is not God) was the Son of God, and the Son of God is not God, but He is the Son of God. And if you make Him “God … the Son”, then you have Two God's. Now, he quotes the Scripture that tells us He was made like unto Him, but that does not make Him God.

HEBREWS 1:1 ¶ God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us in Son, whom He (God) hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He (God) made the worlds; 3 Who (The Son of God) being the brightness of His (God’s) glory, and the express image of his (God’s) person, and upholding all things by the word of His (God’s) power, when He (The Son of God) had by himself purged our sins, (He, the Son of God) sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; (That’s God) 4 ¶ Being made so much better than the angels, as he (the Son of God) hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. (Therefore if He obtained His name by inheritance, He did not have it to begin with, but was given that name, by His Father.) 5 For unto which of the angels said He (God) at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I (God) will be to him (The Son of God) a Father, and he (the Son of God) shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he (God) bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he (God) saith, And let all the angels of God worship him (The Son of God). 7 And of the angels he (God) saith, Who maketh his (God’s) angels spirits, and his (God’s) ministers a flame of fire. 8 But unto the Son he (the Son of God) saith, Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God,(whose God? The Son of God’s God) hath anointed thee (the Son of God) with the oil of gladness above thy(the Son of God’s ) fellows.

In the NIV translation we read Hebrews 1:3 as follows: “The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word.”

We also find in the Amplified version of Hebrews 1: 3 “He is the sole expression of the glory of God, - the Light Being, - the out raying of the Divine. And He is the perfect imprint and very image of God's Nature, upholding, and maintaining and guiding and propelling the universe by His Mighty Word of Power.”

And I would like to add, "This one, Who in every way resembles and reflected the nature and will of God, laid it all down, to become like you and I, in the form of man, En Morphe, he changed His form to die the worst death a man could die.

PHILIPPIANS 2:6 Who, (speaking of the Son of God) being in the form of God: So God has a form. 6 Who, being in the form of God, the En Morphe of God, He struck the vision of God. Brother Branham said, "He changed from what He was to what He is. He never changes His nature."

From the MASTERPIECE 64-0705 79 William Branham said, "The perfect image of the God-man, God En morphe had changed from Supernatural to the vision. And the vision was projected into the Image. And the Image was smitten so that the Supernatural could taste the feeling of death, God's perfect Masterpiece.

God in His Son, living, breathing, and feeling the pains of rejection. Yet God is the only immortal, and He can not die. Again in the sermon, MANIFESTED SONS OF GOD 60-0518 88 William Branham said, "In the Garden of Gethsemane , the anointing left Him, you know, He had to die as a sinner. He died a sinner, you know that; not His sins, but mine and yours.

One man said to me that William Branham made a mistake in saying that God left Jesus in the Garden of Gethsame because this man said, “there is no Scripture for it”. I said, “If I can give you the Scripture for it will you believe it?” He said “yes”. I gave him the Scripture, where Jesus Cried out on the cross, “My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me.” MARK 15:34 . The man answered I still don’t believe it. I said, “I didn’t think you would”, and he said, “Why is that?” and I said, “because you’re an unbeliever. If you were a believer you would believe it”. Now, you might say, “that is not nice to call a man an unbeliever, and I will answer, what do you want me to call a man who does not believe, a believer? You want me to lie to make him feel good? Hell is not going to be a very pleasant experience, and better to feel shamed here than to find out there. There are going to be a lot of preachers who will have to give an account at the white throne for failing to tell the people the truth. You better tell them now, while you still have time to tell the truth.

Also from, THE RISING OF THE SUN 65-0418 William Branham said, "When God looked down upon the body... (The Spirit left Him in the Garden of Gethsemane ; He had to die a man.) Remember friends, He didn't have to do that. That was God. God anointed that flesh, which was human flesh, and He didn't have... If He'd went up there as God, He'd have never died that kind of death; can't kill God.

Now, we know then that in the pre-incarnate form that the Son of God dwelt in, Paul tells us in Philippians, that He was in the En Morphe of God. He was in the form of God. Now, most people think because God is Spirit that He has no form, but is only an eternal mind. They think of God is some sort and shapeless cloud-like Spirit floating around. And that thinking is error, and takes away from the person of God. Therefore, let's see what the Bible tells us of God's form.

#1) God has a head like a man.

Revelation 10: 1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: So we see God has a head.

A) And in that head God has a mouth.

ISAIAH 40:5 And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see [it] together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken [it].

DEUTERONOMY 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every [word] that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

MATTHEW 4:4 But Jesus answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

B) Not only does God have a mouth, but God has a voice as well. Therefore God has vocal chords, as we would call them.

GENESIS 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

C) God has Hair on His head

DANIEL 7:9 ¶ I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment [was] white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne [was like] the fiery flame, [and] his wheels [as] burning fire.

D) On God’s head God has a face that has eyes and ears and even a nose.

I PETER 3:12 For the eyes of the Lord [are] over the righteous, and his ears [are open] unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord [is] against them that do evil.

PSALMS 34:15 (a) The eyes of the LORD [are] upon the righteous, (b) and his ears [are open] unto their cry.

II SAMUEL 22:16 And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.

GENESIS 8:21 And (c) the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart [is] evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

#2) And on either side of God’s Head God has shoulders.

ISAIAH 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:

#3) And attached to God’s shoulders, God has arms and at the end of those arms God has hands.

PSALMS 98:1 ¶ A Psalm. O sing unto the LORD a new song; for he hath done marvellous things: his right hand, and his holy arm, hath gotten him the victory.

I KINGS 18:46 And the hand of the LORD was on Elijah; and he girded up his loins, and ran before Ahab to the entrance of Jezreel.

PSALMS 95:7 ¶ For he [is] our God; and we [are] the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice,

#4) And between God’s shoulders God has a bosom,

JOHN 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared [him]. Bosom = kolpos, the front of the body between the arms.

#5) And in that Bosom The Lord God has a heart

GENESIS 6:6 ¶ And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

#6) And not only in that bosom The Lord God has a heart, but below that God has bowels as well.

JEREMIAH 31:20 [Is] Ephraim my dear son? [is he] a pleasant child? for since I spake against him, I do earnestly remember him still: therefore my bowels are troubled for him; I will surely have mercy upon him, saith the LORD.

#7) Which is completion, therefore to complete God’s form, God has legs and feet.

DEUTERONOMY 23:14 For the LORD thy God walketh in the midst of thy camp, to deliver thee, and to give up thine enemies before thee; therefore shall thy camp be holy: that he see no unclean thing in thee, and turn away from thee.

NAHUM 1:3 The LORD [is] slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit [the wicked]: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds [are] the dust of his feet.

And of course God has a form. We have named all the parts which He has and when Moses got to take a peak God would not let Him see His Face so He showed Moses His back side.

EXODUS 33:18 And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. 19 And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy. 20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. 21 And the LORD said, Behold, [there is] a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: 22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: 23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

Brother Branham said from the message, ENTOMBMENT 57-0420 50 God isn't without a body. God's got a body, and it looks like a man. Moses saw it; others saw it, and it looks like a man.

HEBREWS CHAPTER 4 57-0901E 142-132 As we had it the other night, God in the beginning was Spirit. And then from God went out the Logos, or the Theophany which was a form of a man called the Son of God (prefigured). He came in earth in a body of flesh, even before He came in Jesus Christ. Now, swallow that one once, brother. I'll prove it to you. When Moses saw Him, he said, "Let me see Your form, Lord." And God hid him in a rock. And when He passed by, he said it was the back part of a man. That was that Theophany. That's exactly. Then that Theophany had to be made flesh, not another person, but the same Person had to become flesh to take the sting out of death.

QA HEBREWS PART 3 57-1006 342-841 God had never become flesh yet; He was in a theophany. And Moses saw Him. Moses cried, "Lord, let me see You." He said, "Go yonder and hide in the rock, in the cleft. And Moses got back in that cleft; and when God passed by, the lightning and thunders... And as God passed by, He had His back turned like this. And Moses said It was the back of a Man. Hallelujah. Who was It? The Melchisedec that come down, the King of Salem, with no father and mother, no beginning of days or ending of life. That's Him. And He come down; that's the One that talked to Abraham; that gathered Him up a little body of flesh like that, and [Brother Branham blows--Ed.] breathed into it, stepped into it, and come down and eat a calf, drank milk from a cow, and eat some butter and corn bread. And the two Angels... And when He walked out there, and all of that stuff just [Brother Branham blows--Ed.] vanished and went away.

SIR WE WOULD SEE JESUS 54-1205 E-12 Now, here comes Jesus, God Himself, incarnate in His Son, Christ Jesus, tabernacled to take away sin. Notice what Brother Branham said, here. He said here comes Jesus which is God Himself incarnated in His Son Christ Jesus. Then what we have is Jesus in Jesus. That’s what William Branham said in We would see Jesus 58-0612 P:55 he said, “Look. When He was here on earth, how many knows that that was the Pillar of Fire that followed the children of Israel in the wilderness, that It was Christ, the Angel of the covenant? All right. And how many knows that that was Jesus in Jesus, that same Spirit?”

INTER VEIL 56-0121 E-8 No man will ever reach the plane that Jesus stood on. He was God, incarnate God, made manifest here on earth in flesh to give us what God was. God was in His Son reconciling the world to Himself. No man will ever reach that plane. He's God's only begotten Son. Or, "In Him dwelled the fullness of the Godhead bodily." Everything of God was in Christ. But you have the Spirit by portion. He had It without measure. You got a measure, like a spoonful of water out of the ocean. It's a spoonful of the same chemicals, but not much of it.

PARADOX 61-1210 315 I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of the living God, borned of a virgin, conceived, God in a womb, a Tabernacle in which He would dwell in. I believe that, in Christ, He is the incarnate God. He is God made flesh. When the Father God came into Jesus Christ, He was the Fullness of the Godhead bodily; in Him dwells all the Fullness. God the Father spoke the Words. Jesus said, "It's not Me that speaketh, but My Father that dwelleth in Me. He doeth the speaking."

IS THIS THE SIGN OF THE END SIR 62-1230E 31-1 The 7th mystery is of God, even Christ, as the incarnate Fullness of the Godhead embodied, in Whom all Divine wisdom and godliness is restored to man.

FIRST SEAL THE 63-0318 161-3 {301} Notice, and when this Holy Spirit that we have, becomes incarnate to us, the One that's in our midst now in the form of the Holy Ghost, becomes incarnate to us in the Person of Jesus Christ, we'll crown Him King of king...?..That's right. See?

Now in getting back to our text let me read it again, PHILIPPIANS 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

AMPLIFIED: Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God (possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God, God), did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained: But stripped himself of all privileges and rightful dignity so as to assume the guise of a servant or slave, in that He became like men and was born a human being. And after He had appeared in human form He abased and humbled Himself still further and carried His obedience to the extreme of death, even the death of the cross.

The Weymouth Translation says, "Although from the very beginning He had the nature of God, He did not reckon equality with God a treasure to be tightly grasped. Nay, He stripped Himself of His Glory, and took on Him the nature of a bondservant, a man like other men.

Although in the pre-incarnate form, or as Paul says here, Although from the very beginning He had the nature of God … Who, being in the en Morphe of God, Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God (possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God, God), yet he made Himself of no reputation, (that word is keno the root of kenos) He emptied Himself out. Made nothing of himself, but took on another en morphe, the en morphe of a man. And in that state let's see what attributes He displayed. Now, up until the time of the incarnation as man, he never made a reputation for Himself. He never sought His own Glory, he never was recognized as a separate being from God because He was so One with God that He became the very out raying of God, and yet he was a separate being from God, but He reflected God in every detail, in nature, in attributes and characteristics, that you could not tell or separate Himself from God. When God created, He did it through His Son. When God guided, maintained and controlled the Universe, he did it through His Son. The Son had no distinctive features or attributes that could be identified as being different from the Father, and thus He appeared to be the same being. Philippians 2: 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: And what name is that? His own Name of course, for what other name is above all names exept the name of the Lord God Himself.

Yet when he come to earth, in the form or en morphe of a man, I want you to see the attributes He expressed in this form.

I have put together a list of things which I believe show that there is a difference between The Father and The Son.

#1) God is God and He does not have a God. Behold O Israel the Lord Thy God is One God. God is sovereign and does not answer to anyone. He does not have someone above Him that is God. Therefore, if Jesus (the Son of God) was God, then why does He speak of another Who is God? And if He has a God then who is that God if He Himself is in fact God? Therefore, Jesus, the “Son of God”, was not “God the Son”, but He was the “Son of God”. That means He had a God and that God was His Father.

John 20: 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Mark 15: 34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Now, this word forsaken means to totally abandon. How could Jesus cry out that God had abandoned Him if the Man Jesus was God? Can God totally abandon Himself from Himself?

Matthew 27: 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

John 8: 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

John 10: 36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

John 8: 54 Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:

And not only from Jesus Himself do we hear this talk that God is His Father, but we also hear from the Apostle Paul that God is the God of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 1: 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Ephesians 1: 17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

#2) God is Not only the God of Jesus Christ but He is the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ as well. Jesus called God His Father showing there is a difference between the two. And William Branham said Jesus could not be His own Father.

Seed shall not be heir 65-0429B P:45 There's where the oneness missed it; there's where the trinity missed it, both sides of the road. But the happy medium's right in between. If God could be His own Father, if Jesus was His Own Father, He couldn't be. And if He had another Father besides God, and the Bible said the Holy Ghost was His Father, and if they're two different spirits, He's a illegitimate child. That's right. Which was the Father of Him, God or the Holy Ghost? You say one and watch how embarrassed you're going to get. See? God was His Father. Is that right?

Questions and answers COD 59-0628E P:113 Now, somebody said Brother Branham is a "oneness." No, sir, I am not a oneness. I do not believe that Jesus could be His own father. I believe that Jesus had a Father, and that was God. But God dwelled and tabernacled IN this body called Jesus, and He was Emmanuel: God with us. And there's no other God besides this God. He is Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. And the Name of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost... Father: the Lord, Son: Jesus, Holy Ghost: Logos, Spirit of God. Father, Son, Holy Ghost, Lord Jesus Christ; that's Him. And IN Him dwelled the Fullness of the Godhead bodily.

Show us the Father 53-0907A P:96 There's only one God. And I differ and disagree agree with the organization of Pentecost that calls the Oneness like your finger is one. That's wrong. Absolutely, it's wrong. God... Jesus couldn't have been His Own Father, and if God is a Man, then Jesus was born sexual desire and not virgin birth. That settles the whole thing. You see? If He's one like your finger's one, then what? Then He was His Own daddy. How could He have been? That's wrong. He had a Father, Jesus did.

Cruelty of sin 53-0403 P:73 There He died, friendless, even forsaken by God Himself. God, and, then, His Own Father, forsaken Him, bleeding.

Palmerworm locust caterpillar 59-0823 P:79 And you Oneness brethren, many of you get off the wrong track when you try to think that God is one like your finger is one. He can't be His Own Father. He can't be. But He is God. God is Jehovah, the Spirit; Christ was the House that He dwelt in.

Revelation chapter one 60-1204M P:66 Now, at the Nicene Council, they come to two great decisions on the... Oh, many of them in that day of the early church fathers, they had two extreme views. One of them was a triune God, a trinitarian. And the other one was a one God. And they both come into existence and went out on two straight limbs, out like that. The triunity became a place of a three-god person. The oneness became a unitarian, just as far wrong as the other one was. So they both went on limbs, but right in here reveals the Truth. Jesus could not be His own Father. If He had a Father outside of the Holy Spirit, then He is a illegitimate child and not... The Holy Ghost conceived Him, and He said God was His Father. So the Holy Ghost and God... That's Matthew 1:18, if... The Holy Ghost and God has to be the same Person or He had two daddy's.

Now, that we have seen what William Branham taught concerning the Father and the Son, let’s see what the Apostles taught as well.

Peter:

Matthew 16: 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

1 Peter 1: 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

2 Peter 1: 17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Paul:

2 Corinthians 11: 31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.

2 Corinthians 1: 3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

1 Corinthians 8: 6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Romans 15: 6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

John:

2 John 1: 3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

2 John 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Jesus:

JOHN 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God.

John 14: 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Notice that Jesus readily admits that the Father is greater than Himself. This word Greater was translated from a Greek word which not only means greater but also it means elder. Then when the Trinitarian tells you that Jesus was co-eternal and co-equal with the Father, how can that be when the Son of God denies it Himself. All sons have beginnings. Then how could the Son be the Eternal Father?

Well, they will quote Isaiah 9:6, so let’s look at Isaiah 9:6 and read it for ourselves.

Isaiah 9: 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Now, let’s read this one thought at a time. For unto us a child is born. Now, if the child is born then he had a beginning. Therefore he can not be the eternal Father. Also, if he is born then someone had to give Him birth. And the word born suggests several things. It suggests pedigree or lineage. It also suggests a carrying, for the one who gives birth had to carry this one. And it also suggests to bring forth. So if it brought forth from someone, then there had to be that someone there before the one that is born.

Secondly, we read, unto us a son is given: Now, if the Son is given, then someone Greater had to give it. And we are told in St. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He (GOD) gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Now, let’s examine the third thought here, and the government shall be upon his shoulder: So we see that he will be placed in a position of ruler-ship. Luke 1: 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Now, let’s examine the last portion which deals with the name of this child, this Son that will be born. : and His name shall be called Wonderful, (is wonderful a name? No. It is a description.) His name shall be called Counsellor,(is counselor a name? No. It is a title.) His name shall be called The mighty God,(is the Might God a name? No, it is a title. ) His name shall be called The everlasting Father, (is Father a name? No, it is a title.) His name shall be called The Prince of Peace (is the Prince of Peace a name? No. It is a title.) Now, there is only one name of the Ever Lasting Father and the Mighty God and the Counsellor, etc. And that name is Jesus. Therefore when he says, His name shall be called, we must further look at what it means when it says His name shall be “called”. This word “called” was translated from the Hebrew word qara which means to proclaim. So we see His name shall proclaim the Might God, and His name shall proclaim the Everlasting Father. Therefore, the Name Jesus proclaims the Mighty God and Everlasting Father, for it is the Father’s name. Jesus told us that in,

John 5: 43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. That is why William Branham said, And how many knows that that was Jesus in Jesus?”

And that is why Brother Branham called Jesus a dual being.

CURTAIN OF TIME 55-0302 E-22 They couldn't understand Him. He was a mystery, even to the Apostles. No one could understand Him, because there was two people talking all the time. -23 The Person Jesus Christ was talking, and God was talking in Him, also. Sometimes it was Christ himself; sometimes it was the Father that dwelt in Him. You see it? He--they couldn't understand some things He would say; He talked in riddles to them.

SHOW US THE FATHER IT'LL SATISFY 56-0422 E-36 Now, it's many times it's been said that no man can see God at anytime, the Bible said so. But the only begotten of the Father has declared Him. Philip, here was very inquisitive; he wanted to see the Father. Says here He said, "I've been so long with you, Philip, and you don't know Me?" Said, "When you see Me you see My Father." In other words, you see the Father express Hisself through the Son. Him and the Father were one in the sense that His Father was dwelling in Him, not Him doing the works; He was a Son, Himself, the immortal, virgin born, Son of God. And then in Him was dwelling the God the Father, expressing Hisself to the world, His attitude towards the people. See? Well, that's how Christ and God were one. God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. Now, He said, "When you see Me, you see the Father, and why do you say, 'Show us the Father?'

JEHOVA JIREH 56-0429 053 "That's the reason people couldn't understand Him. Sometime it was Christ speaking... or was the Son speaking. Other times it was the Father speaking. He was a dual Person. He was one Man, the Son. God was in, which was tabernacling in Him. But what did He do? Did He go around saying, "I'm the Healer." Very contrary, He said, "I'm not the Healer." He said, "It isn't Me that doth the works; it's My Father that dwelleth in Me." And in Saint John the 19th chapter when He was questioned for passing a whole bunch of crippled, lame, withered, halt, blind people, healed one man laying on a pallet, the Father showed Him to go there and heal. Walked away and left the rest of them laying there, they questioned Him. A man packing his bed on the sabbath. Listen to what He said. Saint John 5:19: "Verily, verily, I say unto you: The Son can do nothing in Himself, but what he sees the Father doing, that doeth the Son likewise." Is that what He said? "I do nothing till the Father shows Me a vision first what to do."

LET US SEE GOD 131 59-1129 …I said, "He was more than... God was in Him. He was a man, but He was a dual Person. One, He was a man; the Spirit in Him was God." I said, "God was in Christ." She said, "Aw, no." I said, "Look, lady, I'll take your own Scripture. He was a man, but He was a God-man. When He went down to the grave of Lazarus, He did weep like a man. That's true. But when He stood there, straightened His little stooped shoulders up, and said, 'Lazarus, come forth,' and a dead man, that'd been dead four days come to life again, that was more than a man. Man couldn't do that. That was God in His Son."

Now, let’s just read a few more verses that show that God is the Father of Jesus from Jesus own words.

Luke 10: 22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him.

John 15: 23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

John 15: 15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

John 15: 1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

John 14: 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

John 14: 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

John 5: 17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.

Matthew 26: 53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?

Matthew 26: 42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

Matthew 10: 32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. 33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

John 16: 23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

John 15: 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

John 12: 27 Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.

John 14: 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

John 8: 16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

John 5: 30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Luke 23: 46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

#3) We know that Jesus came in His Father’s name. Therefore the name of the Father was Jesus.

John 5: 43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Therefore the name of the Father was Jesus, the same name given to the Son. Now, we have already quoted a couple times where William Branham said it was Jesus that was in Jesus. He said, “Jesus in Jesus.” Now, I am not trying to trick you here, that is what he said. The Apostle Paul said, God was IN Christ reconciling the world unto Himself. He did not say God was Christ, but God was In Christ. 2 Corinthians 5: 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Paul did not teach that Jesus was the Fullness of the Godhead, but he taught that IN Him dwelt the fullness of the Godhead. Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

Peter did not teach that the Holy Ghost was Jesus, but he gave witness that God the Father spoke and said that He came down and dwelt IN His Son. 2 Peter 1: 17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, IN whom I am well pleased. And brother Branham interpreted this as God saying that He was pleased to dwell in His Son, and so we must also.

Godhead Explained 61-0119A P:56 The Spirit of God, like a dove, descended and a voice from heaven (which was above Him) saying, "This is My beloved Son, in Whom I am pleased to dwell." (Really, the right translation... They got the verb before the adverb, like all the foreigner is... "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am pleased to dwell in." Or, "Whom I am pleased to dwell." "In Whom I am pleased to dwell." ) That was God coming into Jesus, and in Him was the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

John 10: 25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

#4) Jesus prayed to the Father. JOHN 17:15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 17 ¶ Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. 20 ¶ Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24 ¶ Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

#5) The Son of God could learn which means He was not Omniscient as God is Omniscient and Knows all things.

HEBREWS 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; 8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience (to come under subjection) by the things which he suffered; 9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; (learn is to increase ones knowledge, and obedience shows submission). He learned to come under subjection.

Now, if this young man was God, then how could he increase in anything. God is all knowing yet in MATTHEW 24:36 Jesus said, But of that day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only, showing The Son did not possess Omniscience.

#6) He was made perfect or mature and complete. This means that the Son of God could change in His stature, wisdom and maturity. God can not change (Mal 3:6 and Hebrews 13:8)

LUKE 2:40 And the child grew, and waxed (increased and became) strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him. 52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, (maturity) and in favor (knowledge and influence) with God and man. Jesus made progress in the things in which he grew. He grew in Wisdom, he grew in maturity and he grew in the influence and knowledge of God.

#7) The Son is in subjection to the Father. I CORINTHIANS 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

#8) Jesus had set aside His Glory that He had with the Father in the beginning, and was dependent upon the Father to restore it to Him again. JOHN 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. This tells us that he had it but stepped aside from it, and now is asking for it to be restored to Him again.

Most notable is the fact that He stripped Himself of all privilege when he came to earth to take on the form of man, and emptied Himself out completely and took on the nature of a bond-slave.

And as a bond slave, the main attribute expressed is that of submission to the will of the slave owner.

#9) Jesus was dependent upon the will of His Father HEBREWS 10:7 ¶ Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. 8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and [offering] for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure [therein]; which are offered by the law; 9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once [for all].

#10) Jesus could not so anything unless the Father showed Him first. JOHN 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, (then he can not create, he can not save, he can not heal, he can not redeem,) but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

JOHN 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. 31 ¶ If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. 32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. (He couldn't even bear witness of Himself).

#11) Jesus was dependent on the Father for His doctrine as well. JOHN 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. 17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself. 18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

#12) The Father sent the Son. I JOHN 4:1 ¶ And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world.

JOHN 5:36 But I have greater witness than [that] of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. 37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.

#13) God raised up Jesus from the dead.

ACTS 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

ACTS 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, [even] by him doth this man stand here before you

ACTS 5: 30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree

ACTS 13:30 But God raised him from the dead:

GALATIANS 1: 1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

#14) The Son receives Life from the Father

JOHN 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

#14) The Son is not sovereign.

In JOHN 5:17 Jesus is being accused by the Jews for working on the Sabbath because He healed on the Sabbath. His answer to them is found in verse 17. ¶ But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. Now, this was not a very satisfactory answer to them, and it only made them much more angry, because instead of bending down to their Oneness understanding, He was letting them know that it was the Father that was doing the works. 18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. 19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Now, it is very apparent here that Jesus is telling the Jews that he is helpless unless the Father shows him what to do. He says, the Son can do NOTHING. Then the son cannot save, he cannot heal, he cannot redeem, he can do nothing, unless shown by the Father what to do. These are not the words of One who is Sovereign. But God is Sovereign. God is Omniscient and Omnipotent.

1. One who is sovereign answers to no one.

2. One who is sovereign reigns supreme above all.

3. One who is sovereign is completely independent of all others.

Therefore, the Son of God is not and was not Sovereign, for He was completely dependent upon the Father to act and to speak. He did not have his own words, nor his own actions, nor his own doctrine, and he subjected His own will to the Father. I challenge you to make a chart that lists these three attributes of Sovereignty, and then take any Scripture that speaks of the Son of God and check yes or no to whether he displays the attributes of One Who is Sovereign, and the answer is you can’t find one Scripture speaking of a Sovereign son. You will find scripture for an obedient son, but never any Scripture of a son who is sovereign. It is God that indwelt that Son that is sovereign. God is Omniscient, and God is Omnipotent, but the son was always dependent upon the Father for everything including; speaking, acting, His doctrine, and even submitting His own will to the Father’s will.

Scriptural references	Attributes of Sovereignty	Sovereign	Sovereign
		YES	NO
*John 5:19* The Son can do nothing but what the Father shows Him	Answer to no one		X
	Reigns above all		X
	Completely independent		X
John 14:10 The words I speak I speak not of myself,	Answer to no one		X
	Reigns above all		X
	Completely independent		X
John 14:10 The Father that dwelleth in me He doeth the works	Answer to no one		X
	Reigns above all		X
	Completely independent		X
John 7:16 My doctrine is not mine but His that sent me	Answer to no one		X
	Reigns above all		X
	Completely independent		X
John 5:17 My Father worketh hitherto and I work	Answer to no one		X
	Reigns above all		X
	Completely independent		X
Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a son he learned obedience	Answer to no one		X
	Reigns above all		X
	Completely independent		X

And what about "Father, I would that you take this cup from me, But not My will but Thine be done", etc. Those are not words of one who is sovereign. We could continue with this study using many more scriptures, in fact all Scriptures concerning the Son of God, but I’ll leave it up to you to try it yourself.

JOHN 5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. Notice again that Jesus is speaking of this unique relationship He had with the Father. He says, the Father shows Him all that he is to do, for the Father Himself is first doing those things, and then shows them to the Son for Him to perform. . This is exactly what William Branham also had to do. He was completely helpless until the Father first showed Him in Vision what he had to do. Then in the role as another obedient son, he did what was shown Him to do, having seen the Father already performing it in Vision before he then acted out the role to make that vision come from that dimension to this one, bringing flesh to the Spoken Word..

In the next verse we find Jesus again explaining how it works. JOHN 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he (The Father) wills. Now, in your own thinking you may have read that Jesus was saying that He (Jesus) raised up whomsoever he the son of God wills, but that is not what He has been saying for the past few verses. He has already been saying that he can do nothing but what He sees the Father doing, and then why would he turn and say, For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he himself wills. You see how far off the Scriptures everyone reads them. To read it that way you will have to completely throw out everything Jesus the Son of God had just been saying about how His relationship with the Father works.

Now, let’s continue reading what Jesus says concerning this unique relationship he has with His Father. JOHN 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: Now, the word here that is used for committed is the Greek word didomi which means to grant. And Paul uses the same word when he says in ROMANS 15:5 ¶ Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: Notice Paul uses this word in speaking of God giving us an ability to be likeminded, and he adds, according to Christ Jesus. Therefore, he is telling us as Jesus was likeminded with the Father in all things, so too Go has given us the same ability to become likeminded with Himself. So when God is committing all judgment to the Son, Jesus is saying, that God has given Him an ability to Judge as the Father Judges. He is not saying that His judgment is Sovereign, nor is he saying that His judgment would somehow be different from the Father’s Judgment. But what He has been telling us is that He can do nothing except what He has first learned from the Father to do. And if you read it any other way, you are making Jesus a Hypocrite. How could He be speaking in one context for several examples and then suddenly change his course. He is the same yesterday, today and forever. And if we do not believe that we might as well hang it up.

JOHN 12:44 ¶ Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me. Notice he is telling us here that the things we hear and thus believe, are not his words, but the Father that sent him, thus by Believing the Son we are believing the father. For they are the Words the Father gave the son to declare. 45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me. 46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness. 47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: The Word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. And Who is the Word? In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was God! Notice how, Jesus again tells us that the words He spoke were not even His own Words to speak, but were the very Words His Father told Him to say. 49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

So how can we refuse Him that speaketh when He is only speaking the words of the Father. Now, let’s get back to JOHN 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. Now, first we want to point out that Jesus tells us if we do not give Him honor then we cannot honor the Father that sent Him.

That again ought to tell you that He is saying, since everything the Son doeth, the Father has shown Him first to do, then we should honor Him even as we honor the Father.

In honoring the Son we are honoring the Father, because the Son is only doing what the Father has instructed Him to do. Thus what we see being done is the Father working and the son working hitherto. Thus in giving honor to the son we are acknowledging the Father’s preeminent role, and the son’s role of complete obedience to the Father.

Now, in reading the next verse, we must remember that the Words Jesus is speaking He had first learned from the Father to say. JOHN 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. We find Jesus clarifying this in JOHN 14:10b The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Notice he is saying, these are my Fathers words, not mine. This is identical to what we had read in various other Scriptures so far, and should need no further elucidation.

JOHN 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. And why is He saying this? Because He has already established that His Words, and thus His Voice is nothing short of an echo of God’s own Words and thus God’s own Voice. And He explains that in the next verse. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; Notice then that the very Life that Jesus had was given to Him by one greater than Himself. His Life came from the Father. And thus the Father who is the giver of Life.

Now, in moving forward we find Jesus say in verse 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. Remember, we had read earlier in verse 22 that the Father had committed all judgment unto the Son to execute, and we had stated that this was an ability to be likeminded with the Father. Notice in this verse Jesus tells us the authority to do so was also given Him by the Father, because He is His Son. John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. 30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; Why? because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. There you have it. Jesus can judge because God, His Father knows that he will only judge what God has already judged. He said, I have not come to do my own will but the will of the father which sent me. Then he says, 31 ¶ If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. 32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

In verse 56 we find out Who the witness is, Jesus is speaking about. And if Jesus is consistent in what he has been telling them, then it has to be His Father that He is speaking about as we see in JOHN 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. 37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. 38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

Now, let’s stop for a moment and look at another scripture that Jesus is speaking of this Judging. Let’s turn to JOHN 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me. 17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me. 19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. Notice the words of Jesus, he says, I am not alone. Now, that speaks of another, meaning more than one is involved here. And he tells us immediately who that other is… I and the Father that sent me. Then he says, 17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. Then notice who those TWO MEN are that he uses for his witness. I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

Now if Jesus considered Himself to be One with God in that way, why would he speak these words? But they could not see His Father because they did not understand what He was talking about. And so they looked for one that can not be seen, and missed seeing that He was living in His Son.

Now, in getting back to John 14:8 we read, Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. ⁹ Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? ¹⁰ Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. ¹¹ Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

Obviously from what we have seen so far, Jesus is not saying here that He and His Father are one like your finger is one. But what He is saying is that the same Word that is in the Father, is abiding in Him and that makes Him one with the Father. Brother Branham further clarified this in the sermon,

SHOW US THE FATHER IT'LL SATISFY 56-0422 E-36 Now, it's many times it's been said that no man can see God at anytime, the Bible said so. But the only begotten of the Father has declared Him. Philip, here was very inquisitive; he wanted to see the Father. Says here He said, "I've been so long with you, Philip, and you don't know Me?" Said, "When you see Me you see My Father." In other words, you see the Father express Hisself through the Son. Him and the Father were one in the sense that His Father was dwelling in Him, not Him doing the works; He was a Son, Himself, the immortal, virgin born, Son of God. And then in Him was dwelling the God, the Father, expressing Hisself to the world, His attitude towards the people. See? Well, that's how Christ and God were one. God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself. Now, He said, "When you see Me, you see the Father, and why do you say, 'Show us the Father?'"

Again in the sermon, He Swore By Himself 54-1212 we can find William Branham clarifying that this is what was meant by Jesus when he spoke to Philip. He said, "I and My Father are One. My Father is in Me." Said, "Show us now the Father." Philip said, "Showeth me the Father and it'll satisfy me." Said, "Philip, I been so long with you, and you don't know Me?" He said, "When you see Me, you see the Father. And why say, 'Show me the Father.' I and the Father are One. My Father's living in Me now. It's not Me that doeth the works; it's Him that dwells in me, that does the works." Oh, my.How could I tell a man what was wrong with him? How could I tell him what his future will be ten years, or what he was forty years ago? It isn't me. Hallelujah. It's Him that lives in me, that come down, that through His Blood brought me in fellowship with Him. Hallelujah. How could my hands do anything by healing the sick? It hasn't got a bit of power. It's not me. But it's Him that dwells in here that does it.

And since three is a witness, let me share one more quote with you where William Branham further elucidates my point that Jesus and God were one by reason of the Father abiding in Him, directing Him by His Word. CONFERENCE 60-1125 E-73 When He said, "It's not Me that doeth the works. It's My Father. He dwelleth in Me. Me and My Father are One. I and My Father are One. My Father dwelleth in Me." And He did the same works that He did when He dwelt in that Body standing there before Abraham.

AS I WAS WITH MOSES 51-0503 E-15 When Jesus of Nazareth ... I believe that the Father was in Him, that all the great things that was the Father's was given unto His Son, all the great blessings and gifts; for He was just expressed image of the Father. And in Him dwelled all the richness of God dwelling in Him here, looking up. And I... He said, "I and My Father are One. My Father dwelleth in Me." Just as Jehovah... Just what Jehovah was, Jesus was. He was the expressed image of Him. He was God shaped out here, and all the powers of God formed into, and put in a human body. He said, "It's not Me that doeth the works; it's My Father that dwelleth in Me; He doeth the works."

GIFTS 56-1207 E-29 Now, in Christ dwelt the Fullness of the Godhead bodily. He had all the Spirit of God in Him. "I and My Father are One," said Jesus. That's the reason the people couldn't understand Him. Sometimes He'd say something, might look like He turn around and say something different. It was Him speaking, then the Father speaking. See? They were... And even the disciples could not understand Him. And right at the last, they said, "Lo, now speakest Thou plainly. Now, we believe by this if you know all things; no man needs to teach you." Jesus said, "Do you now believe?" After all that time, they couldn't get the... Why? That sometimes He'd say this and then say that. It was Him and the Father speaking. E-30 Now, notice closely. Now, God dwelling in Christ used His voice to speak by. Jesus said in His miracle, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, the Son can do nothing in Himself, but what He sees the Father doing, that doeth the Son likewise." Is that right? Saint John 5:19. Then He did not do nothing within Himself. No prophet ever did anything within himself, until first God showed what to do. What a mistake Moses made when he went out without the vision of God and smote down the Egyptian, thought he'd liberate them with his hands, because he thought he had a lot of faith and could do it, because he was called for the job. No matter how much you're called for the job, God has to do the leading. See? He failed of all of his schooling and his military mind and his training as a great Egyptian leader. But yet it failed, 'cause God had a program and we've got to work according to God's program. No matter what we do, how smart we are, we've got to humble ourselves and work according to God's program. Amen. So he failed and God had to keep him another forty years to educate him. So what it was, that he must forget himself, and it's not him, but it was God.

SUPER SIGN 59-1227M 86 When He was here on the earth, He proved that He was God, proved that God was in Him, because the signs of God followed Him. He said, "If I do not the works of My Father, then believe Me not. But if I do the works of My Father, if you don't believe Me, believe the works, the sign": Immanuel. "I and My Father are One. My Father has sent Me. And as He sends Me, so send I you. The Father that sent Me is with Me; He's in Me and doing the works of Himself. It's God in flesh."

SHOW US THE FATHER AND IT WILL SATISFY 60-0731 E-15 "The works that I do, shall you also." And seeing the same results by human beings so submitted to God, until the Holy Spirit can work through those human beings just like the Holy Spirit worked through Jesus, Who just has confessed that, "I and My Father are One. My Father dwelleth in Me. He doeth the works. It's not My words; it's His words."... See? He was so submitted to God.