Satans Eden no 44

Questions and Answer for French Ministers Meeting

May 1, 2022 - PM

Brian Kocourek, Pastor

 

Question 5: In Satan’s Eden n°35, Page 4, you said “So we see after Jesus came and went, then the Apostle Paul came forth teaching Jesus Message and many who followed the lonely Nazarene drifted off, as did many of the 3,000 who were baptized

 

on the day of Pentecost, until we find that the apostle Paul stood as the light to his age with only 12 people in his church who were moving on with the revelation of Jesus Christ”.

 

And “Then the apostle Paul went off the scene and the apostle John took those same 12 people further into the relationship of Father and son, and sons showing them their own relationship as sons of the father is what this Gospel is all about.

 

And that crowd drifted down to 8. God honing, honing, honing his church”.

 

Did you mean that these 3000 baptized, back-slid?

 

And from 12, there were 4 of them, left?

 

Can you give us Bible or Message proofs, to support this statement?

 

Answer no 5: I did not say 4, I said “there were 12 in the Ephesian church when Paul was the Pastor of that church, and when John took it over, after Paul’s departure, that church was down to 8 people.

 

I was talking about the attrition we see in the first church Age as we see in all church Ages, and especially this last one.

 

But according the brother Branham in the church age book, many in that age backslid as every age begins like a roman candle going off, the Messenger blasts away his gospel trumpet, it assembles the people, the message goes forth and then a cooling down at the end of that age.

 

The Ephesian church was the light house of the Word of God in that hour.

 

Acts 19:1  And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

 

2  He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3  And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

 

4  Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5  When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

 

6  And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7  And all the men were about twelve.”

 

So we see Paul has 12 in his church at Ephesus.

 

From Brother Branham’s sermon Dedication 62-1111M P:4 We see him say the same thing. “We see in the Bible, in the 19th chapter of Acts where Paul, passing through the upper coast, came to Ephesus. And there he found a church. That was the Ephesian church,

 

which was the first in the church age considered in the Revelation of Christ. And in this church here there was twelve people, as recorded. Twelve people was the number. But if this church only had twelve, or like that church did, and completely surrendered to God,

 

He can do more with that twelve than He could with the rest of the world. It's the surrender that we have, where the truth of the Gospel not only goes from the platform, but finds its bed in the hearts of the people and reacts back. So I deem this a pleasure this morning.”

 

Notice he says,in this church here there was twelve people, as recorded. Twelve people was the number”. In the book of acts chapter 18 Paul enters Ephesus, meets several brothers there, and in chapter 19 Paul comes back and establishes that fellowship in the Word and forms the church at Ephesus.

 

Jehovah Jireh 58-0127 P:49 When He told them the truth, they all departed. Even the seventy. He looked to His little twelve people that stood and let... still believed Him after that message. He said, "Do you want to go too."

 

He said, "Lord, where would we go?"Because He said, "I knew you before the foundation of the world, ordained you to Eternal Life. My sheep hear My voice."

 

I say tonight; that same Lord Jesus, that walked on the Sea of Galilee, has risen from the dead and is in this building tonight. The Jehovah-Jireh on mount, where Isaac was offered up, the same Jehovah God,

 

that stayed the hand of Abraham, is in this building tonight. "Wherever two or three are gathered in My Name, I'll be in their midst. Whatever they agree upon, as touching one thing and ask, they shall receive it."

 

John was one of the twelve apostles of Jesus and he was called “the Son of Thunder” by Jesus himself. The first Christian community in Ephesus was established by the Apostle Paul in acts 18 and 19, later

 

The Apostle John in 64 A.D. took the church after the apostle Paul was decapitated outside the city wall of Rome, John became the leader of the Ephesians church community, and some historians believe he wrote his epistles while there.

 

William Branham ministering before 500,000 at Durban South Africa, 300,000 in India. Actually there were more than that because that is how many were converted. But where were they a year later?

 

On the day of Pentecost 3,000 people received a baptism in the Holy Ghost and yet brother Branham said you could be baptized every hour of your life and still go to hell.

 

Where were those 3,000 at the end of the church age? The Apostle Paul had twelve at Ephesus? John went to Ephesus with eight people?

 

So we are looking at the falling away that comes with each age and each messenger. At the end of the Ephesian church age the people had begun to drift, and Irenaeaus came on the scene preaching and writing books against the heresies.

 

So that same scene take place in every church Age. God comes on the scene with a messenger and a message, he blasts that thing before the people, the people repent, but by the end of the age the people drift away from what they had been taught.

 

You people ought to read Irenaeaus’ books against the heresies, I have 5 books he wrote on the heresies, I do not know if there are any more but I have not found them.

 

They were written in the French language, he was from Lyons; France. When you read his books you will see that the first Church Age, the Ephesian church age had back slid.

 

Church Age Book  Chapter 3 - The Ephesian Church Age P:29 The very name, Ephesus, has a strange compound meaning, "Aimed at", and "Relaxed". The high aspirations of this age that had begun with the fullness of the Spirit, "the depth of God",

 

whereby they were aiming at the high calling of God, began to give way to a less watchful attitude. A less ardent following of Jesus Christ began to manifest itself as an omen that in the future ages the physical vehicle called the church would sink to the awfulness of the "depth of Satan".

 

It had become relaxed and was drifting. Already the age was backsliding. It had left its first love. The tiny seed planted in that Ephesian Age would one day grow in the spirit of error until all foul birds of the air would roost in its branches. So inoffensive to human reasoning would that little plant appear to that New Eve (the New Church) that again she would be deceived by Satan.

 

The Ephesian Age had presented to her the opportunity for God's best, and for awhile she prevailed, and then relaxed, and in that unguarded moment Satan planted the seed of complete ruination.

 

Church Age Book  Chapter 3 - The Ephesian Church Age P:61 The fervent desire to please God, the passion to know His Word, the cry for reaching out in the Spirit, all begins to fade and instead of that church being on fire with the fire of God it has cooled off and become a bit formal.

 

That is what was happening back there to the Ephesians. They were getting a bit formal. The abandonment to God was dying out and the people weren't too careful about what God thought of them as they began to be careful about what the world thought of them.

 

That second generation coming on was just like Israel. They demanded a king to be like the other nations. When they did that, they rejected God. But they did it anyway. That is the history of the church. When it thinks more of conforming to the world instead of conforming to God, it isn't long until you see them stop doing things they used to do, and start doing things they wouldn't do initially.

 

They change their manner of dress, their attitudes and their behavior. They get lax. That is what "Ephesus" means: relaxed--drifting.

 

Question 6: Colossians 3:4When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.”

 

Is this scripture speaking about His second Coming or it concerns His appearing in this last day, because we have seen the God-Life, which is our Life, being photographed on Sunset Mountain?

 

Answer no 6: It is about the appearing of the lord as it says in the Scripture. That word is not erchomai which means to come, it is phaneroo, which means to manifest or appear in ones true identity.

 

Just go back to what I showed you concerning the appearing and coming and you will see what I mean.

 

Question 7: What day (calendar date) exactly the angels appeared on Sunset Mountain?

 

Answer no 7: I just do not know, and I really do not care, because Days and months and years mean nothing to God. We are at the end time when time will be no more and time actually blends in with eternity.

 

And even If I could find out, and I am sure that I could, I would not waste my time looking backwards, when my full attention is on what God is doing right now. That is where I am focused. Not to brush off the question, but I only look back to the alpha in order to see what is to happen in this omega.

 

And I just do not have the time to look into things which have nothing to do with what God is doing now. But I know there are people who wish to find fault with brother Branham and some dates that he said, and I just won’t go there.

 

He was human, and he could make mistakes on dates and things because he said he could.

 

Usually when people ask this question, they want to try to find fault with brother Branham saying the angels appeared over mount sunset on a certain day, and then they dig and find out it was a different day, so I know where this question is leading, and I won’t have any part with it. Brother Branham was not god, he was a man, and as a man was very capable of making mistakes. He didn’t make mistakes with the doctrine, just with times and dates and things that are very human.

 

From his sermon Guide a 62-1014E P:65 he said, “That was God's policy. That's the way it was laid down. That's His program; He can't change from it, because He's infinite. Amen. He can't change from it; He's God. I can change; I'm a man.

You can change; you're a man or woman. But God cannot change. I'm finite; I can make mistakes and say things wrong; all of us can. But God can't and be God. His first decision is perfect. The way God acts on the scene, that's the way He's got to act every time.

 

If He's called on the scene to save a sinner, He saves him on the basis of one thing. The next time a sinner comes, He's got to act the same way, or He acted wrong when He acted the first time. Amen. I love Him. I know it's the Truth.

 

Spoken word original seed 62-0318E P:195 And remember, Christian friends, I'm a man; I can make mistakes, but God, being God, cannot make a mistake. All the Words that's been written must be fulfilled; Jesus said so.

 

So we've got things here in the Scripture that must be fulfilled, and that is one of the things, this boycott to come. But before this boycott can come of the marking of the beast, there has to be a Seed sowed for God to take a church out of it. You understand now?

 

A Seed has to be sowed. A denominational seed to make a form or an image to the beast, the church of Rome... And there has to be a true Bride.

 

Question 8: The generation that will see the coming of the lord. From 1946 to 1986 is a generation. Is brother Branham fulfilled that scripture? Was brother Branham was the coming of Lord? That was promise that generation would see? From 46 to 86?

 

An Exposition of The Seven Church Ages (9 - The Laodicean Church Age) “Based on these seven visions, along with the rapid changes which have swept the world in the last fifty years,  I PREDICT (I do not prophesy) that these visions will have all come to pass by 1977. And though many may feel that this is an irresponsible statement in view of the fact that Jesus said that “no man knoweth the day nor the hour.”

 

I still maintain this prediction after thirty years because, Jesus did NOT say no man could know the year, month or week in which His coming was to be completed.

 

So I repeat, I sincerely believe and maintain as a private student of the Word, along with Divine inspiration that 1977 ought to terminate the world systems and usher in the millennium.”

 

Israel became a nation in 46, and the prophet told us to count 40 years. So around 86 Does it mean the second coming of the lord already passed? What difference between 1977 and 1963.

 

Answer no 8: Ok, the question asked is two-fold. One concerns what has been taught by many that since Israel became a nation in 1946 then should that mean the coming of the Lord should have been 40 years later in 1986?

 

And the other part concerns the seven church age book concerning 1977. So let me break these down into two things.

 

Part 8A) 1946 to 1986 is that one generation? Well it seems that every 40 years or so people beget sons and daughters. But, that generation that say 1946 were to be living at the time of the coming of the son of man.

 

In Psalms 90:10 we read, The days of our years are threescore years and ten; (that is a 70 year generation) and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, (which good health will give a man 80 years so you are looking at an 80 year generation.) yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away. 

 

1946 plus 80 would be 2026, not 1986. Jesus said that generation will not pass away. In  Matthew 24:27. Jesus is talking about the parousia of the son of man.  “For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the Parousia of the Son of man be.  28. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

 

Then in Matthew 24:30. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: (we’ve seen it in the clouds) and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. (great power, and we saw more done in his ministry in this hour that he did when He came in His first born son.)

 

Our hope is in God 51-0929 P:23 And how does He do these works? In a visible body? No. For it's written, "A little while and the world seeth Me no more; yet you'll see Me: for I will be with you, even in you, to the end of the world. The things that I do shall you also; and greater than this shall you do (or more), for I go to My Father."

 

And nightly He does more in the meeting, in one single meeting He does more of telling the people what to do and so forth, in one single meeting, then it's written of Him telling the people in the New Testament (Think of that.) of three years of ministry.

 

'Course there's many things He did do; it's not recorded according to Luke, but the things that's written...He told a man one time where there was a fish had a coin in his mouth.

He told them where some mules was hitched, two places where they come together. He knew where a man would be packing a pitcher, make ready an upper room. Just about six, seven, things is all He...

 

Is recorded of Him saying. But He knew their thoughts; He read their mind.

 

So let’s just continue and read Matthew 24:31. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.  

 

What do you think he has been doing for the past 20 some years as he has sent me to 59 countries and our website into 190 countries? He has been gathering His sons and daughters around His Word, and  teaching them how to be conformed to the image of the first born son in a vast family of sons.

 

he shall send his angels” That’s plural. This is not speaking of the seventh angel, this is speaking of those others who have been faithfully taught, who take the word out to others and teach it. Those angels plural, aggelos which we showed you is pastors or messenger, and God sends them to gather his elect from the four winds and from one end of heaven to the other. And you are a part of that and I am a part of that gathering. People are always looking forward and always looking backwards and failing to recognize what God is doing now.

 

I’ve known for many years that I was one of the gathering angels, aggelos, pastors, messengers. Does that make me a somebody? No, because it is not about the vessel that God uses, it’s all about the God who is using those vessels.

 

32. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:  (Now, we all know that concerns Israel, they are the olive tree in scripture.)

 

33. So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.  34. Verily I say unto you, this  generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.  

 

Therefore, if this generation was born in 1946, and lives to be 80 according to scripture, then that would be 2026 not 1986.  I hope you can see that. Don’t get mixed up with generation overlapping every 40 years, but look at the totality of life of that generation.

 

35. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.  36. But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

 

so if it is the Father only or alone who knows, then Jesus the son of God did not even know it, so why does it matter what day the cloud appeared, and what day brother Branham was hunting. 

 

37. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the (Parousia) of the Son of man be.  38. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,   39. And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the (Parousia) of the Son of man be. 

 

The Parousia which is the presence of the Lord which is the appearing before the actual coming has been going on since about 1933 when the Pillar of fire came down in this age.

Remember, it had nothing to do with William Branham. He was only standing there when the pillar of fire came down. No more than I had anything to do with the same pillar of fire coming down in the form of those three rainbows in Mbanza Ngungu. As brother Branham said,

 

I can say the same thing, I wasn't the One that appeared; I was only standing there when He appeared. It wasn't what I knew; it's what I just surrendered myself to, that He spoke through. It isn't me.

 

I was just preaching the same Doctrine of Christ that brother Branham had been preaching when those three rainbows appeared to him in the field. As they appeared over the church as I was speaking to the pastors  in Mbanza Ngugu. So put aside the vessel and focus on the god who uses vessel.

 

Now, let me finish with the second part of question 9 which will be part B

An Exposition of The Seven Church Ages (9 - The Laodicean Church Age) “Based on these seven visions, along with the rapid changes which have swept the world in the last fifty years,

 

I PREDICT (I do not prophesy) that these visions will have all come to pass by 1977. And though many may feel that this is an irresponsible statement in view of the fact that Jesus said that “no man knoweth the day nor the hour.

 

I still maintain this prediction after thirty years because, Jesus did NOT say no man could know the year, month or week in which His coming was to be completed.

 

So I repeat, I sincerely believe and maintain as a private student of the Word, along with Divine inspiration that 1977 ought to terminate the world systems and usher in the millennium.”

 

Alright, so many people stumble over these words but always remember, brother Branham said we have to speak the word in such a way as to cause some to stumble, some to go out etc. That is necessary or the church would be overrun with unbelievers.

 

It’s bad enough that we have so many make believers, but to have so many unbelievers as well would affect and infect the church is such a negative way that God has his messengers speak in such a way that many just will never understand.

 

That is exactly what Jesus said in Matthew 13 and Mark 8. That hearing they would not understand and seeing they would not perceive lest he have to heal them.

 

Unveiling of God 64-0614M P:13 Now, my subject this morning, I trust that God will reveal this. And each time, if you who take the tapes and listen, and I hope and trust that you have had a spiritual understanding of what that God has been in trying to get over to the church without saying it right out.

 

See? It's a thing sometime... We have to say things in such a way, that it might thin down, it might bring some to go out, some to leave, and some to ponder over. But that's done purposely. It must be done that way.

 

Now, as I said many have wrestled with what brother Branham said in the Church age book concerning 1977.

 

So I repeat, I sincerely believe and maintain as a private student of the Word, along with Divine inspiration that 1977 ought to terminate the world systems and usher in the millennium.”

 

Now, let me ask you what is the world systems that will terminate before 1977? It wasn’t health or education, or Food and drugs, because every nation eats different foods, and use different health care methods, and different education etc. Nor was it the religious systems, for there are as many as one can count. But what world system changed before 1977? The worlds monetary system did. It was on the gold standard until 1972 when Charles DeGaulle of France demanded US debt be pid to them in Gold.

 

We did not have the gold as it was sold to the Vatican, during those years after the WW2. How did we get so much? During WW2 France and Britain sent their gold to the USA for safe keeping in case the Nazi’s over ran their countries. 

 

Then in 1972 when France demanded their god we didn’t have it because it had been sold to the Vatican. So when Nixon took us off the gold standard the whole world being tied to the US dollar which was backed by gold, went into hyper inflation, and what you could buy for a dollar back then now costs close to a hundred of dollars.

 

So he said the world system would end before 1977 and it did. You just have to know what system he was talking about. The second ting he said was that 1977 would begin to usher in the millennium.

 

What does the word usher mean? It means to positionally place you. You go to a ball park, you have a ticket with an assigned seat. The usher takes you to your seat and positionally places you there.

 

Before 1977 you had one teacher in this message and it was Br. Lee Vayle, but in 1977 many teachers and most of them false raised up with their own doctrines, like Two souls, seven thunders, the pastor is the husband of the church spiritually speaking, etc.

 

That also happens to be the very year brother Vayle begin to teach us concerning the Parousia of Christ and that began to positionally place the Bride of Christ in her rightful position and understanding her position in Christ because it led to the right teaching of the doctrine of Christ.

 

Mean while all those other doctrines which were false tore her away from her rightful place until many so called Message believers, believe such nonsense as “the bride is God”, “William Branham was God” and now “Joseph is God”, and a whole host of stupidity substituted for the real genuine Message. And that is a sad indictment on the ministers who refuse to take this Message back to the Word of God.

 

Ok, so Let us pray