Satans
Eden no 44
Questions
and Answer for French Ministers Meeting
May 1, 2022 - PM
Brian
Kocourek, Pastor
Question 5: In Satan’s Eden n°35, Page 4, you said “So we see after Jesus came and
went, then the Apostle Paul came forth teaching Jesus Message and many who
followed the lonely Nazarene drifted off, as did many of the 3,000 who were
baptized
on the day of
Pentecost, until we find that the apostle Paul stood as the light to his age
with only 12 people in his church who were moving on with the revelation of
Jesus Christ”.
And “Then
the apostle Paul went off the scene and the apostle John took those same 12
people further into the relationship of Father and son, and sons showing them
their own relationship as sons of the father is what this Gospel is all about.
And that crowd
drifted down to 8. God honing, honing, honing his church”.
Did you mean
that these 3000 baptized, back-slid?
And from 12, there
were 4 of them, left?
Can you give us
Bible or Message proofs, to support this statement?
Answer no 5: I did not say 4, I said “there
were 12 in the Ephesian church when Paul was the Pastor of that church, and
when John took it over, after Paul’s departure, that church was down to 8
people.
I was talking
about the attrition we see in the first church Age as we see in all church
Ages, and especially this last one.
But according
the brother Branham in the church age book, many in that age backslid as every
age begins like a roman candle going off, the Messenger blasts away his gospel
trumpet, it assembles the people, the message goes forth and then a cooling
down at the end of that age.
The Ephesian
church was the light house of the Word of God in that hour.
Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos
was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus:
and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the
Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as
heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were
ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with
the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on
him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this,
they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and
they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all
the men were about twelve.”
So we see Paul
has 12 in his church at Ephesus.
From Brother
Branham’s sermon Dedication 62-1111M P:4 We
see him say the same thing. “We see in the Bible, in the 19th chapter of Acts
where Paul, passing through the upper coast, came to Ephesus. And there
he found a church. That was the Ephesian church,
which was the first in the church age
considered in the Revelation of Christ. And in this church here there was twelve people, as recorded. Twelve
people was the number. But if this church only had twelve, or like
that church did, and completely surrendered to God,
He can do more with that twelve than He
could with the rest of the world. It's the surrender that we have, where the
truth of the Gospel not only goes from the platform, but finds its bed in the
hearts of the people and reacts back. So I deem this a pleasure this morning.”
Notice he
says, “in this church here there was
twelve people, as recorded.
Twelve people was the number”. In
the book of acts chapter 18 Paul enters
Ephesus, meets several brothers there, and in chapter 19 Paul comes back and establishes that fellowship
in the Word and forms the church at Ephesus.
Jehovah Jireh 58-0127 P:49 When He told them the truth, they all
departed. Even the seventy. He looked to His little
twelve people that stood and let... still believed Him after that message. He
said, "Do you
want to go too."
He said, "Lord, where would we go?"Because
He said, "I knew
you before the foundation of the world, ordained you to Eternal Life. My sheep
hear My voice."
I say tonight; that same Lord Jesus, that
walked on the Sea of Galilee, has risen from the dead and is in this building
tonight. The Jehovah-Jireh on mount, where Isaac was offered up, the same
Jehovah God,
that stayed the hand of Abraham, is in
this building tonight. "Wherever
two or three are gathered in My Name, I'll be in their midst. Whatever they
agree upon, as touching one thing and ask, they shall receive it."
John was one of the
twelve apostles of Jesus and he was called “the Son of
Thunder” by Jesus himself. The first Christian
community in Ephesus was established by the Apostle Paul in acts 18 and 19,
later
The Apostle John in 64 A.D. took the church after the apostle Paul was
decapitated outside the city wall of Rome, John became the leader
of the Ephesians church community, and some historians believe he wrote his
epistles while there.
William Branham
ministering before 500,000 at Durban South Africa, 300,000 in India. Actually
there were more than that because that is how many were converted. But where
were they a year later?
On the day of
Pentecost 3,000 people received a baptism in the Holy Ghost and yet brother
Branham said you could be baptized every hour of your life and still go to
hell.
Where were those
3,000 at the end of the church age? The Apostle Paul had twelve at Ephesus?
John went to Ephesus with eight people?
So we are
looking at the falling away that comes with each age and each messenger. At the
end of the Ephesian church age the people had begun to drift, and Irenaeaus
came on the scene preaching and writing books against the heresies.
So that same
scene take place in every church Age. God comes on the scene with a messenger
and a message, he blasts that thing before the people, the people repent, but
by the end of the age the people drift away from what they had been taught.
You people ought
to read Irenaeaus’ books against the heresies, I have 5 books he wrote on the
heresies, I do not know if there are any more but I have not found them.
They were
written in the French language, he was from Lyons; France. When you read his
books you will see that the first Church Age, the Ephesian church age had back
slid.
Church Age Book Chapter 3 - The Ephesian Church Age P:29 The very name, Ephesus,
has a strange compound meaning, "Aimed at", and "Relaxed".
The high aspirations of this age that had begun with the fullness of the
Spirit, "the depth of God",
whereby they were aiming at the high
calling of God, began to give way to a less watchful attitude. A less
ardent following of Jesus Christ began to manifest itself as an omen that in
the future ages the physical vehicle called the church would sink to the
awfulness of the "depth of Satan".
It had become relaxed and was drifting. Already
the age was backsliding. It had left its first love. The tiny seed
planted in that Ephesian Age would one day grow in the spirit of error until
all foul birds of the air would roost in its branches. So inoffensive to human
reasoning would that little plant appear to that New Eve (the New Church) that
again she would be deceived by Satan.
The Ephesian Age had presented to
her the opportunity for God's best, and for awhile she prevailed, and then
relaxed, and in that unguarded moment Satan planted the seed of complete
ruination.
Church Age Book Chapter 3 - The Ephesian Church Age P:61 The fervent
desire to please God, the passion to know His Word, the cry for reaching out in
the Spirit, all begins to fade and instead of that church being on fire with
the fire of God it has cooled off and become a bit formal.
That is what was happening back there to
the Ephesians. They were getting a bit formal. The abandonment to God was dying
out and the people weren't too careful about what God thought of them as they
began to be careful about what the world thought of them.
That second generation coming on was just
like Israel. They demanded a king to be like the other nations. When they did
that, they rejected God. But they did it anyway. That is the history of the
church. When it thinks more of conforming to the world instead of conforming to
God, it isn't long until you see them stop doing things they used to do, and
start doing things they wouldn't do initially.
They change their manner of dress, their
attitudes and their behavior. They get lax. That is what "Ephesus"
means: relaxed--drifting.
Question 6: Colossians 3:4 “When
Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in
glory.”
Is this
scripture speaking about His second Coming or it concerns His appearing in this
last day, because we have seen the God-Life, which is our Life, being
photographed on Sunset Mountain?
Answer no 6: It is about the appearing of the lord as
it says in the Scripture. That word is not erchomai which means to come, it is phaneroo, which means to manifest
or appear in ones true
identity.
Just go back to
what I showed you concerning the appearing and coming and you will see what I
mean.
Question 7: What day (calendar date) exactly the
angels appeared on Sunset Mountain?
Answer no 7: I just do not know, and I really do not
care, because Days and months and years mean nothing to God. We are at the end
time when time will be no more and time actually blends in with eternity.
And even If I
could find out, and I am sure that I could, I would not waste my time looking
backwards, when my full attention is on what God is doing right now. That is
where I am focused. Not to brush off the question, but I only look back to the
alpha in order to see what is to happen in this omega.
And I just do
not have the time to look into things which have nothing to do with what God is
doing now. But I know there are people who wish to find fault with brother
Branham and some dates that he said, and I just won’t go there.
He was human,
and he could make mistakes on dates and things because he said he could.
Usually when
people ask this question, they want to try to find fault with brother Branham
saying the angels appeared over mount sunset on a certain day, and then they
dig and find out it was a different day, so I know where this question is
leading, and I won’t have any part with it. Brother Branham was not god, he was
a man, and as a man was very capable of making mistakes. He didn’t make
mistakes with the doctrine, just with times and dates and things that are very
human.
From his sermon Guide a
62-1014E P:65 he said, “That was God's policy. That's the way it was laid down.
That's His program; He can't change from it, because He's infinite.
Amen. He can't change from it; He's God. I can change; I'm a man.
You can change; you're a man or woman. But God cannot
change. I'm
finite; I can make mistakes and say things wrong; all of us can. But God
can't and be God. His first decision is perfect. The way God acts on the
scene, that's the way He's got to act every time.
If
He's called on the scene to save a sinner, He saves him on the basis of one
thing. The next time a sinner comes, He's got to act the same way, or He acted
wrong when He acted the first time. Amen. I love Him. I know it's the Truth.
Spoken word original seed 62-0318E P:195 And remember,
Christian friends,
I'm a man; I can make mistakes, but God, being God, cannot make a mistake.
All the Words that's been written must be fulfilled; Jesus said so.
So
we've got things here in the Scripture that must be fulfilled, and that is one
of the things, this boycott to come. But before this boycott can come of the
marking of the beast, there has to be a Seed sowed for God to take a church out
of it. You understand now?
A
Seed has to be sowed. A denominational seed to make a form or an image to the
beast, the church of Rome... And there has to be a true Bride.
Question 8: The generation that will see the coming of the
lord. From 1946 to 1986 is a generation. Is brother Branham fulfilled that
scripture? Was brother Branham was the coming of Lord? That was promise that
generation would see? From 46 to 86?
An Exposition of The Seven Church Ages (9 - The Laodicean Church
Age) “Based on these seven visions, along with the rapid changes which have
swept the world in the last fifty years, I PREDICT (I do not prophesy) that these
visions will have all come to pass by 1977. And though many may feel that
this is an irresponsible statement in view of the fact that Jesus said that “no
man knoweth the day nor the hour.”
I still maintain this prediction after thirty years because, Jesus did
NOT say no man could know the year, month or week in which His coming was to be
completed.
So I repeat, I sincerely believe and maintain as a private student of the
Word, along with Divine inspiration that 1977 ought to terminate the world
systems and usher in the millennium.”
Israel became a nation
in 46, and the prophet told us to count 40 years. So around 86 Does it mean the
second coming of the lord already passed? What difference between 1977 and
1963.
Answer no 8:
Ok, the question asked is two-fold. One concerns what has been taught by many
that since Israel became a nation in 1946 then should that mean the coming of
the Lord should have been 40 years later in 1986?
And the other part concerns the
seven church age book concerning 1977. So let me break these down into two
things.
Part 8A) 1946 to
1986 is that one generation? Well it seems that every 40 years or so people
beget sons and daughters. But, that generation that say 1946 were to be living
at the time of the coming of the son of man.
In
Psalms 90:10 we read, The
days of our years are threescore
years and ten; (that
is a 70 year generation) and if by reason of
strength they be fourscore
years, (which good health will give a man 80 years so
you are looking at an 80 year generation.) yet is their
strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
1946 plus 80 would
be 2026, not 1986. Jesus said that generation will not pass away. In Matthew 24:27. Jesus is talking about the parousia of the son of man. “For as the lightning cometh out of the east,
and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the Parousia of
the Son of man be. 28. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be
gathered together.
Then in Matthew 24:30. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: (we’ve seen it in
the clouds) and
then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power
and great glory. (great power, and we saw more done in his
ministry in this hour that he did when He came in His first born son.)
Our hope is in God 51-0929
P:23 And how does He do these works? In a visible body? No. For it's
written, "A
little while and the world seeth Me no more; yet you'll see Me: for I will be
with you, even in you, to the end of the world. The things that I do shall you
also; and greater than this shall you do (or more), for I go to My Father."
And nightly He does more in the meeting, in one single
meeting He does more of telling the people what to do and so forth, in one
single meeting, then it's written of Him telling the people in the New
Testament (Think of that.) of three years of ministry.
'Course there's many things He did do; it's not recorded according
to Luke, but the things that's written...He told a man one
time where there was a fish had a coin in his mouth.
He told them where some mules was
hitched, two places where they come together. He knew where a man would be
packing a pitcher, make ready an upper room. Just about six, seven, things is
all He...
Is recorded of Him saying. But He knew
their thoughts; He read their mind.
So let’s just continue and read Matthew 24:31. And he shall send
his angels with a great sound of a
trumpet, and they shall gather together
his elect from the four winds, from
one end of heaven to the other.
What do you think he has been doing
for the past 20 some years as he has sent me to 59 countries and our website
into 190 countries? He has been gathering His sons and daughters around His
Word, and teaching them how to be
conformed to the image of the first born son in a vast family of sons.
“he shall
send his angels” That’s plural. This is not speaking of the seventh
angel, this is speaking of those others who have been faithfully taught, who
take the word out to others and teach it. Those angels plural, aggelos
which we showed you is pastors or messenger, and God sends them to gather his elect from the
four winds and from one end of heaven to the other. And you are
a part of that and I am a part of that gathering. People are always looking
forward and always looking backwards and failing to recognize what God is doing
now.
I’ve known for many years that I was
one of the gathering angels, aggelos,
pastors, messengers. Does that make me a somebody? No, because it is not about
the vessel that God uses, it’s all about the God who is using those vessels.
32. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his
branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
(Now, we all know that concerns
Israel, they are the olive tree in scripture.)
33. So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these
things, know that it is near, even at
the doors. 34. Verily I say unto you, this generation
shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Therefore, if this generation was
born in 1946, and lives to be 80 according to scripture, then that would be
2026 not 1986. I hope you can see that.
Don’t get mixed up with generation overlapping every 40 years, but look at the
totality of life of that generation.
35. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words
shall not pass away. 36. But of
that day and hour knoweth no
man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
so if it is the Father only or alone
who knows, then Jesus the son of God did not even know it, so why does it
matter what day the cloud appeared, and what day brother Branham was hunting.
37. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the (Parousia) of the Son of man be. 38.
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39. And knew not until the flood came, and took them
all away; so shall also the (Parousia) of the Son of man be.
The Parousia which is the presence
of the Lord which is the appearing before the actual coming has been going on
since about 1933 when the Pillar of fire came down in this age.
Remember, it had nothing to do with
William Branham. He was only standing there when the pillar of fire came down.
No more than I had anything to do with the same pillar of fire coming down in
the form of those three rainbows in Mbanza Ngungu. As brother Branham said,
I can say the same thing, I
wasn't the One that appeared; I was only standing there when He appeared. It wasn't what I knew; it's
what I just surrendered myself to, that He spoke through.
It isn't me.
I was just preaching the same Doctrine of Christ
that brother Branham had been preaching when those three rainbows appeared to
him in the field. As they appeared over the church as I was speaking to the
pastors in Mbanza Ngugu. So put
aside the vessel and focus on the god who uses vessel.
Now, let me finish with the second part of question
9 which will be part B
An Exposition of The Seven Church Ages (9 - The Laodicean Church
Age) “Based on these seven visions, along with the rapid changes which have
swept the world in the last fifty years,
I PREDICT (I do not prophesy) that these visions will have all come to
pass by 1977. And though many may feel that this is an irresponsible statement
in view of the fact that Jesus said that “no man knoweth the day nor the hour.”
I still maintain this prediction after thirty years because, Jesus
did NOT say no man could know the year, month or week in which His coming was
to be completed.
So I repeat, I sincerely believe and maintain as a private student of the
Word, along with Divine inspiration that 1977 ought to terminate the world
systems and usher in the millennium.”
Alright, so many people stumble over these words but
always remember, brother Branham said we have to speak the word in such a way
as to cause some to stumble, some to go out etc. That is necessary or the
church would be overrun with unbelievers.
It’s bad enough that we have so many make believers,
but to have so many unbelievers as well would affect and infect the church is
such a negative way that God has his messengers speak in such a way that many
just will never understand.
That is exactly what Jesus said in Matthew 13 and Mark 8.
That hearing they would not understand and seeing they would not perceive lest
he have to heal them.
Unveiling of God 64-0614M
P:13 Now, my subject this morning, I trust that God will reveal this. And each
time, if you who take the tapes and listen, and I hope and trust that you
have had a spiritual understanding of what that God has been in trying
to get over to the church without saying it right out.
See? It's a thing sometime... We have to
say things in such a way, that it might thin down, it might bring some to go
out, some to leave, and some to ponder over. But that's done purposely. It must
be done that way.
Now, as I said many have wrestled with what brother
Branham said in the Church age book concerning 1977.
So I repeat, I sincerely believe and maintain as a private student of the
Word, along with Divine inspiration that 1977 ought to terminate the world
systems and usher in the millennium.”
Now, let me ask you what is the world systems that
will terminate before 1977? It wasn’t health or education, or Food and drugs,
because every nation eats different foods, and use different health care
methods, and different education etc. Nor was it the religious systems, for
there are as many as one can count. But what world system changed before 1977?
The worlds monetary system did. It was on the gold standard until 1972 when
Charles DeGaulle of France demanded US debt be pid to them in Gold.
We did not have the gold as it was sold to the
Vatican, during those years after the WW2. How did we get so much? During WW2
France and Britain sent their gold to the USA for safe keeping in case the
Nazi’s over ran their countries.
Then in 1972 when France demanded their god we
didn’t have it because it had been sold to the Vatican. So when Nixon took us
off the gold standard the whole world being tied to the US dollar which was
backed by gold, went into hyper inflation, and what you could buy for a dollar
back then now costs close to a hundred of dollars.
So he said the world system would end before 1977
and it did. You just have to know what system he was talking about. The second
ting he said was that 1977 would begin to usher in the millennium.
What does the word usher mean? It means to
positionally place you. You go to a ball park, you have a ticket with an
assigned seat. The usher takes you to your seat and positionally places you
there.
Before 1977 you had one teacher in this message and
it was Br. Lee Vayle, but in 1977 many teachers and most of them false raised
up with their own doctrines, like Two souls, seven thunders, the pastor is the
husband of the church spiritually speaking, etc.
That also happens to be the very year brother Vayle
begin to teach us concerning the Parousia of Christ and that began to
positionally place the Bride of Christ in her rightful position and
understanding her position in Christ because it led to the right teaching of
the doctrine of Christ.
Mean while all those other doctrines which were
false tore her away from her rightful place until many so called Message
believers, believe such nonsense as “the
bride is God”, “William
Branham was God” and now “Joseph
is God”, and a whole host of stupidity substituted for the real genuine
Message. And that is a sad indictment on the ministers who refuse to take this
Message back to the Word of God.
Ok, so Let us pray