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1This evening we will just take a light Message on the comparisons between the Twins. Now, we all know that every revival produces Twins. Brother Branham taught us that. and he also taught us that the twins were, one was spiritual while the other was carnal. So every revival will produce two kinds of people, Spiritual, born again believers, and carnal church goers.
2Hebrews Chapter 7 PT 1 57-0915E 314-146 But, if you notice, the old crow can set over here on a dead carcass and eat half the day. The dove will set in a wheat field and eat half the day. And the crow can fly right out there and eat dove food, as much as he wants to. He could eat just as much wheat as the dove can. But he... The crow, can eat the dove food, but the dove can't eat crow food. That's right. So an old hypocrite can come to church and rejoice and shout and praise the Lord, and go on like that, and go right back out and enjoy the things of the world. But a borned again Christian cannot do it, because the love of God constrains him to such a place He can't do it.
3Both Twins believe in God and will quote His Word
James 2:19 Thou believest that there's one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Why I am a Holy Roller 53-0830A E-41 Now, this is going to make you tighten up your ecclesiastical vest just a little bit, but listen. Notice. God cannot be just. If you say, "I am a believer," so was Cain, and so is the devil. That's right. He came as a believer. And you say, "Well, I go to church, I'll go to the altar." So did Cain. Cain built an altar or a church unto the Lord. You say, "I'm a member of a church." So was Cain. And Cain made a sacrifice. You say, "I pay so much every year into my church." So did Cain. "I worship the Lord from the bottom of my heart." So did Cain. Cain was a believer, a worshipper, and just as fundamentally right as Abel was. Amen. Oh, I love this. I pray, God, steam our hearts. Now, don't get excited; I know where I am. Look, but I feel kind of religious right now. E-42 Notice, when I see that pro and con, when I see that negative and positive, when I see Cain come up there in the beginning... Now, we're back in Genesis, at the beginning of the tree, there's where it was planted. Cain was strictly a fundamentalist, just as fundamental as Abel was. He loved the Lord; he worshipped the Lord. And he built a altar to the Lord; he made a sacrifice to the Lord; he paid his vows to the Lord, just as religious as any fundamental teacher could teach it today. That's right. But God accepted Abel's offering, because Abel, by faith, offered a more excellent sacrifice than Cain by being just. Now, if we had time, I'd like to twist that. Now, there's the beginning of the two trees; I want you to watch: one on the right, one on the left: Cain and Abel. Now, there's where this thing that we're living in today was planted right there in the garden of Eden and started from there in Genesis: right there.
Preparation 53-1111 E-31 I told you the other night that Cain was a believer. And I'll give you a little stronger meat than that tonight if you want to believe it. The devil is a believer. The Bible says he is. He believes and trembles. The devil is a believer. Now, if belief and faith in God is all you have to have to be saved, then the devil's saved according to the Word of God. That's right. But, brother, it's got to take the Holy Spirit, a new birth, a regeneration, a new creature in Christ Jesus. When God comes down and puts His Spirit into you, then you're no more your own, but you're God's. Oh, I begin to feel religious already.
And it all boils down to whether you have truly been born again of His Spirit, or not.
4And Jesus said in Matthew 5:45 "for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust."
Lamb and the Dove 60-0805 E-18 I wondered about that one time. I saw a vision; it was made manifest how that a man went forth sowing wheat, when he slept why, then a enemy come forth, and sowed tares, which is Scriptural. And when the wheat come up, and got ripe, the weeds was up also, the tares. And when there come a drought, and when the drought come everybody was praying for rain. And a great black cloud come and rained down, and the little wheat had his head down like this. It brought it's little head up and begin to say, "Oh, glory to God. Praise, ye, to the Lord, for sending the rain." And the little weed jumped up just as the same as the wheat did, and said, "Glory to God, hallelujah, for sending the rain." I said, "Now, I don't know what to think." Then I see them again, that the rain falls on the just and the unjust. The rain was sent for the wheat, but the tares being in there got the benefit of it, the same rain. "But by their fruit you shall know them," said Jesus.
5Now, always remember and never forget. The rain represents the doctrine of God. His Word as we see in Deuteronomy 32:1-2 Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth. 2 My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:
6So we see that when God sends forth His early rain, that's His teaching rain, (That's the doctrine going forth in a teaching ministry) and then He sends forth his latter rain (which is the same doctrine in it's manifestation), The wheat and tares together will lift up their hands to God and praise God for it. Therefore, lest you get puffed up and think You've got the doctrine, I have advise for you, you better stay humble about it. Because God's rain falls on the just and the unjust. You had better be taking inventory daily where your life is measuring up, because the admonition was not what you knew, but did He know you? Did he have an intimate relationship with you?
7Show us the Father 50-0819 E-21But now, back to Cain and Able, when Cain worshipped, he built an altar; he sacrificed; he worshipped God. But that wasn't enough. And it was beautiful, no doubt the flowers and things that grows in the field, and he decorated his altar.
Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name?(that means preached) and in thy name have cast out devils? (that's deliverance, and healing power) and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
8As we preached on last Sunday, that means, he never knew you in an experiential intimate way. O, they thought they knew him. They preached in his name. They cast out devils in his name. And in his name they did many wonderful things. And he doesn't deny that they did? But it's not a matter of what you do or don't do. It's a matter of whether you have an intimate relationship with Him or not.
9Who Do you Say this is? 64-1227 161 Now, when he seen he couldn't curse you (See?), so what's he going to do? He's going to organize you. Bring you... "Oh, we're all one anyhow. (See?) We all believe in the same God." So that's just what Balaam did. And didn't Jude warn us of this? They erred in the doctrine of Balaam and perished in the gainsaying of Korah. Doesn't Jude, the foster brother of Jesus, warn us of this in the Bible? They're like Cain, from the beginning, the hireling, the one that went to church and built churches and built a altar and sacrificed. They err in the way of Cain. They run in the way of Balaam, and perished in the gainsaying of Korah. Jude lays the whole thing out just like we're doing it this morning here before you, like we've been doing it. The whole thing lays there.
1311 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. 12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
14Ephesians parallels Joshua 60-0515E 72 But there's one thing they can do; they're good workers. Oh, they just work, work, work, work. ... It's just work, work, work, work, work, work, work. And, What are they working for? Ask them, "Have you received the Holy Ghost since you believed?" They stick out their ears, and don't know where they belong; "What do you mean? What about this? What do you mean, the Holy Ghost? I've never heard nothing about It. Oh, you must be some kind of fanatic." See, they don't know who papa was, or who mama was, either. And you have to beat them on everything you do, beat here and beat there, and beat here and beat there. That's right, an old mule.
Ephesian Church Age 60-1205 140 If God had that against this church, He's got it against that one too. "Because you left your first love, I've got it against you. I have something against you; that's My complaint. You once had a great time, but you let the world begin to creep in, and you got to acting a little formal. You still holding My Name, and you're still doing the things that's right, and you got a lot of patience and so forth, and you labor, and you're like a mule, you just labor and work." My, my, my. See, you've left grace and faith and power to swap it for labor and works.
Now so far we have seen many characteristics they both share, and after all they have the same mother. They have the same church, they share the same birth at the same revival. Therefore it is only expected that both will be religious. So if you are expecting your religion to save you, you are in for a rude awakening. Both believe in God, Both worship God, Both make sacrifices to God, Both talk the Word of God, and Both attend Church and both pay their tithes. But what separates them?
We shall begin now to examine the attributes which will show a completely different Life source. After all, did not Jesus Tell us that by their fruits you will know them?
Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
15Anointed One at the end Time 65-0725M 59 Notice. But it's what they produce that tells you the difference. "By their fruit," Jesus said, "you shall know them." Man does not gather grapes off of a thistle even though the thistle be right in the grapevine. That could be possible, but the fruit will tell it. What is the fruit? The Word for the season; that's what it is, their teaching. The teaching of what? The teaching of the seasons, what time it is, man's doctrine, denominational doctrine, or God's Word for the season.
17Matthew 2:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
19MATTHEW 15:13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up. 14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
20John 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father. 39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God. 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear (understand, hear means to understand that's Matthew 13:13) my word. 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
21John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, (Krisis = line of separation) that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than (in a greater measure than they loved) light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hates the light, neither comes to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
24Leadership 65-1207 177 Now, you're ordained to Life. You see It if you're ordained to see It. If you're not ordained to see It, you won't see It. Said, "They have eyes but they can't see, ears and can't hear." How thankful you should be, church. How you should straighten yourself up from these things. How you should be on fire for God. That your eyes beholds what you see, your ears hears the things you see.
25In His Presence 62-0909E 42 So we're not ordained to do nothing but stay with that Word. And if a man is sent of God, he'll stay with the Word, because God can only stand by His Word. See? See, He must stay by His Word. Then when we come into His Presence, when a man once comes into the Presence of God, he's changed forever, if there's any changing to him. Now, there are those who could walk in the Presence of God and pay no attention to It. He wasn't ordained to Life. But if he was predestinated of God, as soon as that first move hits, he knows it. That catches fire.
26Trumpet Gives an Uncertain Sound 63-0114 E-54 Now a real sheep will say, "Oh, oh. Oh, oh. No, something squeaks in that. That didn't sound right. Oh, that must've been a French harp. That wasn't a trumpet, 'cause the Bible gives no uncertain sound." It says you shall receive the Holy Ghost, not you might--you will, every one. How long? To your children and your children's children, and them that's far off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. He'll sound the trumpet in every race and every generation, and they'll hear His voice. They'll believe it, those that's ordained to life. Amen. They'll believe it because they know it's the Gospel trumpet sounding. It's not uncertain. Every soldier knows how to stand.
27Seal of God 54-0514 58 Now, close now, listen, so that you'll be sure to remember. I'm not condemning Catholic people; I'm not condemning Protestant people, for out of both and all of them comes the seed of God by election. Those who are ordained to Life will see It and walk in It. Those who cannot see, walk in darkness. That's up to God. God does it. He swore and promised Abraham He would save him and his Seed. Now, if you got Abraham's Seed, you got Eternal Life (That's all.), and you're heirs according to promise. And it's all by grace and by election of God..
Where is He King of the Jews 58-1221M 79 Oh, He is so good. He will catch the attention of every person that He's ordained to Life, maybe in their own ways of worship. But He's God, and He knows the hearts of men, and He watches them, and He protects them, and He brings them to a place. When the deep calls to the Deep, there has got to be a Deep to respond to that call. If a man is thirsting for something, it shows that there's something out there to respond to quench that thirst.
Queen of Sheba 61-0119E E-17 Jesus had been upbraiding the people because that they had misunderstood His message. And they was trying to make it out something that it wasn't. He had been in their cities, and had been performing miracles, and showing His Messiahic sign to the people, as we talked of last night. And we find that those who were ordained to Life saw it. Those who were not ordained to Life did not see it. The Gospel blinds those who are not willing to accept it, and it'll give sight to those who are willing to accept it. And that's the way it was in His days, when the Scripture plainly stated exactly the things that He did, and said He would do it, and how they missed it, it showed that they had to be blinded.
We Would See Jesus 61-0409 E-39 God was in Him. He said, "It's not Me; it's My Father dwells in Me." The Son was a Man; God was the Spirit that was in Him, and it was the Spirit speaking out of Him. Now, see what He done to them Jews? When He met them, them were ordained to Life recognized it. Don't miss it church. Those that were ordained to Life recognized It and believed It. But those who did not believe It was turned away to perdition. Did not Jesus say to those holy sanctified men, who knowed the Scriptures from A to Z, or claimed to, He said, "You're of your father the devil." That's exactly right.
World's Falling Apart 63-0412M E-70 The same thing has arrived again, and men won't believe; people won't believe; churches won't believe. No wonder. You can't be disappointed in it, because the Bible said they wouldn't do it. But it's you individuals, you that's ordained to life. Look upon the fields now and see what hour we're living in. Come to life. Let the life that was in Christ come in you, the mind... You said, "Oh, I think. I think this. I..." You ain't got no thought coming. You let the thoughts that was in Christ be in you, and that's the Word. That's right. Think the thoughts that He thought.
Voice of the Sign 64-0214 157 Then He turned to the disciples, and He said, "You want to go too." See? They couldn't go. They had seen something. They knowed the Scripture, and they knowed that was it. They couldn't explain what He was talking about. But yet, they believed it anyhow. They never asked no questions; it never bothered them. They believed, because it was a vindication of the Scripture. You believe that? Peter said, "Lord, where would we go? You alone has the Words of Eternal Life." They seen it. They knowed Who He was that, that was what He's supposed to do. "No matter, we can't explain it." See? They were ordained to Life before the foundation of the world. When that Light struck it, they knew it. There's nothing going to move them from it. No matter... Looked like the Pharisees had him pinned in one side and the other. It didn't bother them disciples. They went right straight on anyhow, 'cause they believed it. His voice spoke then.
28One is True the other is false: One is Good, the other is evil.
69-2 Ephesian Church Age - Church Age Book CPT.3 Now let us be very careful that we are not confused at this point. Thus we will seek the Word to validate this claim. Let us go back to the Book of the beginning, Genesis. In the Garden of Eden there were TWO trees. One was good; one was evil. One produced LIFE, the other produced Death. There were two children who originally offered sacrifices to God. Let me repeat that, they BOTH offered sacrifices to God. Genesis 4:3-5, "And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord. And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering: But unto Cain and to his offering He had not respect..." But one (Cain) was evil, being of his father (that Wicked One), while Abel was righteous before the Lord. Again, there were two children from the flesh of the same parents. They were the twins of Isaac and Rebekah. One was the elect of God and the other was reprobate. Both worshipped God. In every single case there was worship of God involved. In every case the evil hated the righteous and persecuted the righteous. In some cases the evil destroyed the righteous. But notice. They were planted together. They lived together. They both made claims upon God and worshipped God.
QA Hebrews Part 1 57-0925 241-190 Now, let's take back to Cain. Could you tell me where that spirit and that meanness come from? If Cain... Look, if Cain was the son of Adam, which was a son of God, where did that evil come from? The first thing when he was born, he hated; he was a murderer; he was jealous. And now, take the nature of his daddy, the very start in the beginning, Lucifer, and he was... In the beginning he was jealous of Michael, what started the whole trouble. How many knows that? And Cain was the nature of his father, which he was jealous of his brother and slew him. That pure... That nature could not come out of that pure seed. It come, had to come out of this perverted stream. And notice, Cain, as soon as he was borned... And then Abel was born after him, then she conceived by Adam, and he knew--knew her and she brought forth the son Abel. And Abel was a type of Christ; and when--when Abel was killed, Seth took his place: death, burial, and resurrection of Christ in type.
121-1 Smyrnaean Church Age - Church Age Book CPT.4 Consider the thought of blasphemy. These of Satan's synagogue were not blaspheming God in this instance (though that goes without saying) but they were blaspheming the true church. Certainly. As Cain persecuted and killed Abel because he (Cain) was of that wicked one, and as the dead formal Judaic followers (Jesus said they were of their father, the devil) tried to destroy the Christians in the first few years of the first age, now this same group (the false vine) is even more strongly attempting to destroy the true believer in the second age. That antichrist spirit is growing.
Questions and Answers 62-0527 704-67 But this fellow, where did that pure lying... Where did that sin come from? Where did this fellow, Cain, that murderer? And the Bible said that, the Devil is a murderer. Where did that lie come from? (The Devil is the father of a lie; he's a liar and the father of a lie.) It had to come from some resource outside of God. So Cain was the evil one, and his father was Satan; and he brought forth this evil one.
29107-3 Ephesians Church Age - Church Age Book CPT.3 But they are religious. They believe in God. They are like their father, the devil, and their ancestor, Cain. Both of them believed in God. They go to church. They mingle with the righteous as do tares mingle with the wheat. In so doing they corrupt and produce a Nicolaitane religion. They spread their poison in every effort to destroy the seed of God even as Cain killed Abel. There is no fear of God before their eyes.
32II CORINTHIANS 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates? 6 But I trust that ye shall know that we are not reprobates. 7 Now I pray to God that ye do no evil; not that we should appear approved, but that ye should do that which is honest, though we be as reprobates.
Anointed Ones at the end Time 65-0725M 129 Now, just one minute. Reprobates concerning the Truth, concerning the faith, the faith. There's only one faith (That's right.), concerning the faith, reprobates.
33II TIMOTHY 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all [men], as theirs also was. 10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
Anointed Ones at the End Time 65-0725M 131 Reprobates, Jambres and Jannes, as they withstood... Now, also listen. II Timothy 3:8: "As Jannes withstood Moses, also in the last days these same reprobates would come (Now, see where it says here?) having a form of godliness, anointed ones... Now, let's just go back and read it when you get home, so that I can finish out this this morning if I can. 132 Reprobates concerning--not reprobates in living, they're fine, cultured men. Now, notice, when Moses went down to Egypt with a message of THUS SAITH THE LORD, and was vindicated, called on Israel, which was a people, not a church... Israel was a people; they never was a church, 'cause the word "church" means "called out ones." They were the people of God. Then when they become anointed under the Word and called out, they become the church of God, and then backslid, because they believed not the Word of God and listened to a false prophet. I hope that sinks in. Israel being a people of God, come out under the hand of God, anointed with the Word, with the power of God, seeing the signs and wonders of God; and then when God was moving on with them, a false prophet come in, anointed, and taught something contrary to the original Word of God, that they heard; and every one of them perished in the wilderness besides three people. Now, hold it.
TITUS 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
34Anointed Ones at the end Time 65-0725M 257 Now, notice. That was Jesus speaking. Here come Paul right behind Him and said, "Now, in the last days there will come religious people (See?), having a form of godliness, and lead silly women, led away with all kinds of worldly lust (Then they wonder, say, "Why do you pick on them women?" Oh, for goodness... They just don't even see it.)--lead silly women, laden with divers lust (away from things like--that's of the...?... See?)... And as Jannes and Jambres (Matthew 24:24, false christs, false anointed, doing signs and wonders to deceive the elected)--now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so will these reprobates..." Reprobate mind concerning the faith, not a faith, the Faith. One faith, one Lord, one...?... You can't have one faith without believing in one Lord. You can't have two baptisms, not one for the Father, and Son, and Holy Ghost. There's one baptism, Jesus Christ. That's right. See? False baptism...
168-4 Pergamena Church Age CAB CPT.5 Then I knew the truth of the camp meeting and the vision. The parable of the Sower and the Seed, the sixth chapter of Hebrews, and the evident manifestation of Spiritual gifts in a mixed audience, all became wonderfully clear. The sower in white was the Lord. The sower in black was the devil. The world was the field. The seeds were people, elect and reprobates. Both partook of the same nourishment, water and sun. Both prayed. Both received help from God, for He maketh His sun and rain to fall on both good and evil. And though they both had the same wonderful blessing and both had the same wonderful manifestations, There was still that one great differenceThey were different Seed.. Here also was the answer to Matthew 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father Which is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy Name? and in Thy Name have cast out devils? and in Thy Name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity." Jesus does not deny that they did the mighty works that only the Holy Ghost can accomplish by way of men. But He did deny ever knowing them. These weren't backsliders. These were wicked, unregenerate, reprobates. These were the seed of Satan.
267-2 Sardisean Church Age CAB CPT.7 Now if language means anything at all we must admit that Judas was chosen by Jesus (John 13:18), yet he was not clean. (John 13:10-11), Judas was also given to Jesus by the Father. John 17:12. (Let it be noted here that the "choosing" and giving is the exact parallel as in the illustration of Moses and Pharaoh, Jacob and Esau, for though Esau and Pharaoh were both fore-known, they were predestinated to wrath, while the end of Moses and Jacob was glorification. I Peter 2:8-9a shows both reprobates and elect "even to them which stumble at the Word, being disobedient: where-unto also they were appointed. But Ye are a chosen generation.") Judas was numbered with the twelve and actually had a part with them in the ministry previous to Pentecost. Acts 1:16-17, "Men and brethren, this Scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry." The part that Judas obtained amongst the twelve and then lost was neither inferior to the ministries of the other eleven, nor was it a devilish foreign ministry interjected amongst the ministries of the others. Acts 1:25, "That he may take part of this ministry and apostle-ship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place." Judas, a devil, lost a God-given Holy Ghost ministry, and killed himself and went to his own place. His name was even in the Book of Life. But his name was blotted out.
359-1 Laodiecean Church Age - CAB chptr 9 Now we can see why there were two vines, one true and one false. Now we can see why Abraham had two sons, one after the flesh (the persecuted Isaac) and one after promise. Now we can see how that out of the same parents two boys came forth as twins, one knowing and loving the things of God, and the other knowing much of the same truth, but not of the same Spirit, and hence persecuted the child that was elect. God did not reprobate for the sake of reprobation. He reprobated for the sake of the elect. Elect cannot persecute elect. Elect cannot harm elect. It is the reprobates that persecute and destroy the elect. Oh, those reprobates are religious. They are smart. They are of the Cain line, the serpent seed. They build their Babels, they build their cities, they build their empires, and all the while calling on God. They hate the true seed, and they will do all they can, (even in the Name of the Lord) to destroy God's elect ones. But they are needed. "What is the chaff to the wheat?" No chaff, no wheat. But at the end, what happens to the chaff? It is burned with fire unquenchable. And the wheat? Where is it? It is gathered in His garner. It is where He is.